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of a jihadist mentality. the 19-year-old, the one who is still alive, dzhokhar tsarnaev, seems to have been less, i think ideologic ideological, if you will. based on the evidence that we have. and i wonder, frank, there's this idea of mercy in american society. and the "boston herald" in today's paper writes we know he's 19 years old, we don't think he has a criminal record. there are a lot of people out there who seem to have warm, positive things to say about him. to predict he'll get a life sentence is not unreasonable. there are democrats who have said, republicans and democrats who have called for capital punishment in this case. there's a question of whether giving him a lesser sentence, if he does cooperate with authorities, given who he is and how young he is. >> the lesser sentence being life. >> life isn't much of a lesser sentence. it's a pretty satisfying punishment. you know, there's nothing that we can ever do that will, that will make us feel any better about what happened. death penalty versus life -- those are very serious, very, very serious punishments. and you know, there's
, several republican senators today say they want dzhokhar tsarnaev tried as an enemy combat tant, not as a criminal defendant. >>> meanwhile, 53 people remain in boston hospitals today, three of them are in critical condition, including a 7-year-old girl. right now, we go to watertown, where the suspect, again, was captured last night. nbc's luke russert is standing by for us right now. luke, what's happening in watertown today? >> reporter: well, craig, it's really extraordinary. i will hold up a headline from the boston the globe, which says nightmare end, a fitting headline for all the residents of watertown. before i came into this hit with you, i went and walked through both of the crime scenes, the one where the secondment is was ultimately found in a boat and i went to where the big shootout was early friday morning and it's quite remarkable to see. this is very much a story of apple pie and chevrolet neighborhood, today, after all that horrific violence that happened in the community, all that fear that happened in the community, they were shutdown, families are out. you
of massachusetts at dartmouth where the younger tsarnaev was enrolled told nbc's jeff rossen that dzhokhar actually discussed the bombings at the gym the day after they took place. >> i talked to him about normal things going on in the day. i talked to him about how it was crazy we had a bombing in boston. >> you said that to him, talked about the bombing? >> yeah. he said it's really sad it's happening, it's a sad thing. it happens around the world, people here aren't used to it. >> reporter: he said it's sad? >> he said it's sad. looked me straight in the eye and said that. >> officials tell nbc federal charges will include a description of a still unreleased fbi video of the suspect putting his back pac down at the site of the second bombing and then acting very differently from those around him when the first bomb went off. >> this suspect took the backpack off, put it down. did not react when the first explosion went off. and then moved away from the backpack in time for the second explosion. >> now, bringing charges in federal court would end the contentious debate that's played out over the
who has been all over this story. j dzhokhar tsarnaev will be charged in a civilian court given the debate we have been talking about this this morning. that will be happening to him? >> no question. a policy decision the obama administration has made. he was a american citizen and naturalized last september and now a federal law, the national defense authorization act of 2012 that says american citizens cannot be tried in military commission. so it's not -- this debate is not a question about where he should be tried. the republicans who say he should be treated differently, their claim is that while they understand the civilian trial will go forward, they think he should be treated for now as an enemy combatant and questioned without any question about his rights, without any issue about whether information he gives would be used in his trial, and then turn back over to civilian authorities. but, clearly, the justice department will have none of that. that's not how it's going to go. >> he's in a boston hospital under heavy guard and serious condition including a gunshot wound
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